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Technical Support: Group Show messages showing in public
Created by: siraeternal

6/18/18 @ 12:35pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Pacific Northwest Coast, USA
Posts: 39

This is probably "by design" but the models that I frequent don't seem to know what controls it: On occasion, when the model does a Group Show, the messages and tips that are happening INSIDE the show room also appear out in the public room. I can see how this is sometimes useful as it becomes a way to entice more guests to pledge and join the room. At other times, what is said and done inside the privacy of a Group Show stays only in the show room and does not appear in public -- this too might be desirable at times.

The problem is that the two models whose rooms I frequent the most don't have a clue what controls this. Sometimes their Group Shows are fairly private (nothing showing in public room) and other times all the chat and tipping is exposed for the world to see.

How do the models control this? And maybe it needs to be made more obvious to them because they certainly don't understand it right now.
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Created by: ronnie-uk

6/18/18 @ 5:49pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: London, UK
Posts: 2,381

This is probably "by design" ... when the model does a Group Show, the messages and tips that are happening INSIDE the show room also appear out in the public room. I can see how this is sometimes useful as it becomes a way to entice more guests to pledge and join the room.


I think it is "by design", as you say, and for exactly the reason you give.

I was not aware that it could be changed, and can't think of any advantage to the performer in doing so.
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Created by: vsashlee

6/18/18 @ 7:57pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Posts: 534

There is no setting that controls this. Any chat activity during a Group Show will be displayed in the chat feed. You may run into instances where some are more active than others, but there is no setting for this. If you have any examples we would be happy to take a look. Just send us a screen shot with all the details and we can look into it. Please send it to CustomerService@vsmedia.com.
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Created by: siraeternal

6/24/18 @ 5:27am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Pacific Northwest Coast, USA
Posts: 39

There is no setting that controls this. Any chat activity during a Group Show will be displayed in the chat feed. You may run into instances where some are more active than others, but there is no setting for this. If you have any examples we would be happy to take a look. Just send us a screen shot with all the details and we can look into it. Please send it to CustomerService@vsmedia.com.


I've been on Flirt for over 3yrs -- yes, not really long, but long enough to have learned my way around and feel fairly expert on everything. The fact that anything said in a Group Show is also posted out in the open public room is news to me. I understand the arguments for doing so, however, you could use the same argument to justify posting anything said in a Multi- out to the open public room as well. Do you think that would be very popular? When I'm in a "show" with a model I had always assumed it was at least semi-private. Therefore, I tend to be more open, more candid and more explicit with my messages than I would ever consider being in the open public room. There are, after all, any manner of guests in open public, potentially even guests younger than 18. This is why there are rules (not always followed) for what should not happen in public and should be reserved to a show room. Frankly, knowing that things I have said in Group Shows in the past have been posted out to the open public room without my prior knowledge or consent really upsets me. It breaches my trust in Flirt to keep certain things private. If you feel it is valuable for people out in public to get leaks and hints of what is happening in the show in hopes they too will join, then it should be something done explicitly by the poster, similar the "/" used to whisper. It could then apply to both Group and Multi- shows. At the very least, and out of just common courtesy to us paying guests, TELL US when we enter a Group show so that we know our posts will be made public for the entire open room to see. I bet I'm in the minority of people who actually know their posts will go public like that.

I'm feeling frustrated, somewhat embarrassed, intimidated, exposed and more than a little violated.

--SirAeternal
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Created by: dan_in_florida

6/24/18 @ 11:23am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Sunny South Florida - with a REALLY cool car :-)
Posts: 1,501



I've been on Flirt for over 3yrs -- yes, not really long, but long enough to have learned my way around and feel fairly expert on everything. The fact that anything said in a Group Show is also posted out in the open public room is news to me. I understand the arguments for doing so, however, you could use the same argument to justify posting anything said in a Multi- out to the open public room as well. Do you think that would be very popular? When I'm in a "show" with a model I had always assumed it was at least semi-private. Therefore, I tend to be more open, more candid and more explicit with my messages than I would ever consider being in the open public room. There are, after all, any manner of guests in open public, potentially even guests younger than 18. This is why there are rules (not always followed) for what should not happen in public and should be reserved to a show room. Frankly, knowing that things I have said in Group Shows in the past have been posted out to the open public room without my prior knowledge or consent really upsets me. It breaches my trust in Flirt to keep certain things private. If you feel it is valuable for people out in public to get leaks and hints of what is happening in the show in hopes they too will join, then it should be something done explicitly by the poster, similar the "/" used to whisper. It could then apply to both Group and Multi- shows. At the very least, and out of just common courtesy to us paying guests, TELL US when we enter a Group show so that we know our posts will be made public for the entire open room to see. I bet I'm in the minority of people who actually know their posts will go public like that.

I'm feeling frustrated, somewhat embarrassed, intimidated, exposed and more than a little violated.

--SirAeternal


In my experience,the whisper function also works in group shows, so if I do have anything that I want to remain FULLY private, from the "public" eavesdropping, AND from other members IN the group, I just whisper it.
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Created by: z-money

6/24/18 @ 5:17pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Posts: 429

Not to be insensitive, but it just sounds like you have unrealistic expectations. Why would what you write be acceptable for people within the group but unacceptable/embarrassing for those outside of it? It's always been that way that chat is still visible while a group show is ongoing. Per minute shows do include a certain expectation of privacy or exclusivity, especially since you are more of a director and less of a spectator. For group shows it is the other way around. You pay a very small price to mostly spectate what the model has said they are offering.
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Created by: r_m

6/24/18 @ 6:02pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: UK

A part from the customary 'applause' emote at the end of the group chat all my messages are always in whisper mode (if the model allows it). More importantly it's really annoying when people chat during the group show or make a request. You've paid for her to do a show so just watch and enjoy.
In some cases the girl has spent several minutes replying when she's supposed to do 'squirt/play with dildo/anal show/bj show/oil show etc and the group show is wasted. Luckily we can get a refund.
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Created by: ronnie-uk

6/25/18 @ 10:16am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: London, UK
Posts: 2,381

Not to be insensitive, but it just sounds like you have unrealistic expectations. Why would what you write be acceptable for people within the group but unacceptable/embarrassing for those outside of it? It's always been that way that chat is still visible while a group show is ongoing. Per minute shows do include a certain expectation of privacy or exclusivity, especially since you are more of a director and less of a spectator. For group shows it is the other way around. You pay a very small price to mostly spectate what the model has said they are offering.


Well said, Z-Money. I was going to make similar points but you say it better :thumbsup
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Created by: siraeternal

6/30/18 @ 8:08pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Pacific Northwest Coast, USA
Posts: 39



Well said, Z-Money. I was going to make similar points but you say it better :thumbsup


I explained this in my original post, and yes, it was lengthy so it probably got lost. The problem is that in any of kind of a show I'm more comfortable saying things that might be rather explicit because I know that only other paying adults are there. In open public chat there could be not-yet-adults -- yes, there should not be, but there could be, and this is why, in general, Flirt tends to discourage certain things in Open Chat that would otherwise be fine in the semi-privacy of a Group (of whatever kind.)
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