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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/25/11 @ 11:11am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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The other day I was reading one of the topics in the Female Performers forum, and saw that Nick Carter had added a "visit me" post in a thread about a female performer. This produced the following comment from Suggs:

Hows about we keep posting in the threads on the guys forum to promote the ladies thereby hijacking ALL their threads like they seem to be doing here.

Throws nick - buy yourself a clue and then STOP HIJACKING A MODELS THREAD TO PROMOTE YA FUCKING SELF !!!

I see that Kenon, Denny X, Darius Mann and others have also been promoting themselves in the Female forum and obviously some of the guys (and girls) there are getting annoyed. I don't think we would like it if the girls started posting "Hi I'm here" in some of the topics in this Male Performers forum. As others have said, these types of posts are a bit lame anyway.

Guys - please don't let the side down. :helpme

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Created by: lickau

9/25/11 @ 11:41am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Kenon + Denny X are repeat offenders who are the most unprofessional with self promotion over and over .
The 1 time or 2 mistakes do happen :twocents

Maybe Kenon + Denny X think they are female or too unprofessional to care about what they do or how bad it makes them appear to others :helpme

Thank you Ronnie :thumbsup

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Created by: kheldarxy

9/25/11 @ 1:31pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Kenon + Denny X are repeat offenders who are the most unprofessional with self promotion over and over .
The 1 time or 2 mistakes do happen :twocents

Maybe Kenon + Denny X think they are female or too unprofessional to care about what they do or how bad it makes them appear to others :helpme

Thank you Ronnie :thumbsup

Completely agree. This is driving people away from their rooms, so not only is it unprofessional, its just plain stupid. I don't think any of them have any sort of future in marketing.

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Created by: Chris Hunt

9/25/11 @ 6:02pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Completely agree. This is driving people away from their rooms, so not only is it unprofessional, its just plain stupid. I don't think any of them have any sort of future in marketing.

Well, I don't understand why people are assuming that the gay forum is only for guys, and the straight forum is only for females? The gay forum should be used for exactly what it's name states, "Gay" chats. This can mean girl on girl, meaning a girl customer or model speaking about a girl model,/customer and the same with a guy/guy. The straight forum should be used for a guy speaking about a female model/customer, and vice-versa.

I don't see how a guy model posting in the straight forum, advertising to straight female customers, is wrong? It's complying with the title of the forum "Straight Fantasies". Don't see why anyone should be based or punished for that.

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Created by: Kenon

9/25/11 @ 6:20pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Female Perfomer Chat
Post what you want in a private show.
(it's wrote in site)

i want make show with performer-girl in private...

i think all "very-very clever" guys understand me...

or you have questions about it for me???

p.s.: KenON (not OFF)

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Created by: Kenon

9/25/11 @ 6:23pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Well, I don't understand why people are assuming that the gay forum is only for guys, and the straight forum is only for females? The gay forum should be used for exactly what it's name states, "Gay" chats. This can mean girl on girl, meaning a girl customer or model speaking about a girl model,/customer and the same with a guy/guy. The straight forum should be used for a guy speaking about a female model/customer, and vice-versa.

I don't see how a guy model posting in the straight forum, advertising to straight female customers, is wrong? It's complying with the title of the forum "Straight Fantasies". Don't see why anyone should be based or punished for that.

Yeah, Chris, i all agree what u tell...

they make discrimination.... it's not right...

p.s.: KenON (not OFF)

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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/25/11 @ 8:18pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Well, I don't understand why people are assuming that the gay forum is only for guys, and the straight forum is only for females? The gay forum should be used for exactly what it's name states, "Gay" chats. This can mean girl on girl, meaning a girl customer or model speaking about a girl model,/customer and the same with a guy/guy. The straight forum should be used for a guy speaking about a female model/customer, and vice-versa.

I don't see how a guy model posting in the straight forum, advertising to straight female customers, is wrong? It's complying with the title of the forum "Straight Fantasies". Don't see why anyone should be based or punished for that.

Chris - they changed the titles of the forums a few months ago.

The forums used to be called "Gay Fantasy Board" and "Straight Fantasies". They are now called "Male Performer Chat" and "Female Performer Chat". This forum is for, and about, male performers.

The simple fact is that many people using the Female Performer forum are getting very annoyed seeing posts from male performers saying "I'm here", "Visit me" etc. I think that the male performers who do that are not only letting themselves down, but letting down the rest of us as well.

No-one is being "punished" here. If you read comments from other members, the general view is that it is the performers who are punishing themselves. People will be avoiding their chat rooms.

I see VS have now transferred Kenon's latest topic to this forum. The people who run this site think that Kenon posted it in the wrong forum. They should know. :bulb

I hope Kenon (and others) will take note of that.

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/25/11 @ 8:31pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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many people using the Female Performer forum are getting very annoyed seeing posts from male performers saying "I'm here", "Visit me" etc.

I never get "very annoyed" about inconsequential things like this. I simply ignore the threads and posts which don't interest me. We all have this option. Life's too short to get "very annoyed" about such trivial matters

:angel

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Created by: Chris Hunt

9/25/11 @ 8:51pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Chris - they changed the titles of the forums a few months ago.

I hope Kenon (and others) will take note of that.

Ahh, well I think that is where the issue is coming in. I know on my screen it still shows "Gay Fantasies" and "Straight Fantasies", which makes me believe it is probably still this way for a few others. In that case, I think it's harsh to blame them for a system error, as with those titles, it would not be wrong for a male model to post in the straight forums, seeking Females customers. Wouldn't you agree?

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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/25/11 @ 9:05pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I never get "very annoyed" about inconsequential things like this. I simply ignore the threads and posts which don't interest me. We all have this option. Life's too short to get "very annoyed" about such trivial matters

:angel

Jeffie, I was just summarising the reactions (of Suggs, LickaU, rheza and others) in the Female Performers forum. If you look at the Kenon topic which has just been transferred from there you will get some idea. There are masses of topics and posts in these forums, many of which I might consider trivial. I think this particular subject is worth airing, for others to ignore, read or comment on as they wish.

Cheers :drinkup

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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/25/11 @ 9:14pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Ahh, well I think that is where the issue is coming in. I know on my screen it still shows "Gay Fantasies" and "Straight Fantasies", which makes me believe it is probably still this way for a few others. In that case, I think it's harsh to blame them for a system error, as with those titles, it would not be wrong for a male model to post in the straight forums, seeking Females customers. Wouldn't you agree?

Yes, Chris. I agree.

I am very surprised to know that you still have the old forum titles on your screen. Is that because the models' screen is different from the members' screen? I can't think you are seeing the old titles because you have been away a while, as you get a live connection to the site each time.

Do any other models still see the old forum titles?

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/25/11 @ 9:46pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Ronnie, I think I might get "very annoyed" if I was mugged or if I was told I only had only six months to live, but getting "very annoyed" because someone posts in the wrong forum? Not me! :angel

And btw, Kenon has advised that today is his last day on the site

Cheers :drinkup

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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/25/11 @ 9:56pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Fair comment, Jeffie. I agree - not important compared with life's big dramas.

If Chris Hunt has spotted something here which has contributed to the problem then this topic was well worth airing.

Interested to know what the title of this forum is on other models' screens.

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Created by: Kenon

9/25/11 @ 10:49pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Interested to know what the title of this forum is on other models' screens.

look)
1
Studio & Performer Chat
Private chat only for Performers.

2
Female Perfomer Chat
Post what you want in a private show.

3
Male Perfomer Chat
Post about what you would like to see.

i think I have helped u;)

And btw, Kenon has advised that today is his last day on the site

yes... i have last work day today... but i think.... i come back soon)

thanks all for all;)

Do not miss me)

p.s.: KenON (not OFF)

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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/25/11 @ 11:12pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Thanks, Kenon. That is a helpful answer.

Any comments, Chris... or other models?

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Created by: ourjeffie

9/25/11 @ 11:24pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Maybe Chris Hunt needs to update his performer application? Just a thought

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Created by: phil_usa

9/26/11 @ 8:21am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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...jeffe, I totally agree with on this one. This kind of posting (advertising) has been going on for a while now and I am really not very troubled by it. I will say this though, I have not been to the rooms of the two performers who are being mentioned here. Perhaps it's because of the numerous postings.

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Created by: Chris Hunt

9/27/11 @ 3:16am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Thanks, Kenon. That is a helpful answer.

Any comments, Chris... or other models?

Well, I view the forums from my Model account and not my members account. Below is a picture of the title of the forums that I see whenever I hover over the "Forums" option to choose a specific forum. Also, to the other poster that mentioned it may be a performer application issue, this is viewed on a webpage, outside of the performer application. ;)

I believe this is where the confusion was coming from. Also you were correct that even if I have been away for a while that I viewing a live page and I can assure you from the models point of view it has not been changed yet. Hopefully this helps with the understanding of why some models are still confused as what topics are to be posted in what forums.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4708/picxa.png

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Created by: ronnie-uk

9/27/11 @ 11:16am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Thanks, Chris. Very interesting. It confirms your earlier point exactly.

I hope VS pick this up. The forum titles do need to be changed on the menu which you showed. Perhaps you might send them a message.

I don't think anyone is too bothered if models make the odd mistake. We are all on the side of the models, and love what you do. It becomes a problem when some of your fellow models deliberately repeat their mistakes and persistently ignore advice from members and other models.

Post #14 here shows that Kenon was aware that he was continuing to post in a forum for female performers.

Kenon's latest topic in the Female Performer forum gives an idea of the ill-feeling that caused, which is not helpful to him or to the professional image of the other male performers on this site. After the thread became rather unpleasant, VS transferred Kenon's topic from the Female Performer forum to this Male Performer forum, and the link is:

http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=12845&num_posts=14

I hope that my topic here helps in some way to avoid similar problems in the future.

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Created by: Domenic Prize

9/30/11 @ 11:27pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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I think it's safe for a male model to post in the female performers forum IF there is a thread that would warrant a reply from them (ie. asking for advice help, an appreciation thread for a model, etc). And vice versa, but other than that, let's use the forums the way they were intended!

Agree with ronnie!

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