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Created by: deaftn

12/15/14 @ 2:52am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: stinks

12/15/14 @ 5:46pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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the money to be a vip go to flirt4free not the models-I am not now or have ever been a vip

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Created by: seducemerightnow

12/16/14 @ 3:31am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Once again I will state that all members are in a habit of asking for free shows but more and more often I see the gold VIPS making promises and then leaving the rooms without living uo to their end of the bargain. That's why I choose to remain white and not gold

Now I see it is easy to point out others but not your own kind. Your excuse of not being a VIP is laughable :orglaugh

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Created by: zyxwv098

12/16/14 @ 5:22am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Can we just agree on two things here? First, that deafTN acknowledges that grey guest and basic, white premium, and gold VIP users all make requests and demands, frequently (for premium and VIP users) without tipping? And second, that deafTN--in HIS experiences on the site--has noticed an increase in the number of gold VIPs making requests/demands without tipping?

I happen to be a gold VIP user, and I agree with deafTN that grey and white users continue as they always have, making requests but not offering tips, but now more gold users are doing the same thing. In point of fact, being a gold VIP user doesn't mean that member is any better than a premium or even a basic or guest user. It just means that person decided to pay more for more benefits. He can still be the same person who, as a white or grey, flooded a chat room with continual requests for this or that without tipping...the only difference is that his color has changed.

And in MY experience, some grey and white users have been more polite and better behaved than some gold VIPs--not making requests, being supportive when they can, etc.

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Created by: seducemerightnow

12/16/14 @ 9:28am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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A lot have mentioned VIP and Premiums are just the same if so seeing VIPs who asks requests should not be a big deal because a lot of premiums does it.

In my observation most of the time in a room if there is a user who is being a 'ruler' in the room usually it is a VIP trying to penetrate in a lot of conversation of the model with the others, made up their own rules in a room, tells to block gray users and ban some members, etc

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Created by: stinks

12/16/14 @ 11:03am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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FRIENDS can agree to disagree

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Created by: deaftn

12/16/14 @ 1:16pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Thank you zyx that was exactly what I was saying.

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Created by: stinks

12/24/14 @ 1:40pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: Matthew Cool

12/24/14 @ 5:41pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Lately it seems the forums have became a battleground between tippers and non tippers. I have kept quiet for a while but enough is enough. Why don't all of us members and models alike try something new. It's called showing a little respect. I am fortunate to be able to show my love and respect for a model by tipping but some of us are not so fortunate. We don't know the life circumstances of those non tippers. Maybe they took a hard knock from the economy or maybe their money is taken for medical expenses or hell maybe all they have is enough for groceries and life expenses. Let's not judge them but respect them. If the models don't want them in their room all they have to do is say so. If the other members are so irritated by them simply go to another room or maybe say hi get to know them. You may just find some wonderful people. It is not our place to judge so lets all be friendly and have a good time. after all the sites name is flirt4free. not flirt4tips or drama4free.

actually most of members somewhy thinking that it is not flirt4free, but "sex4free" "porn4free" "slaves4free" and nothing else. for example one member came and even without just "Hello" said me "Get naked" when I said that it will in private, he started to say me some shit. You know, I respect people who is speaking with me normally, but how can I respect people who is like him? how can I respect people who doesn`t see myself as just a human, but as slave who must make their requests? and in last time more and more people gets rude when they are just getting answer "No" for free request or when they are sending offers like a 10cpm for cum show.

P.S I see only one output. wanna get action? be ready to pay for action.
I`m always easy to talk. so, waiting you in my room.

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Created by: zyxwv098

12/24/14 @ 6:03pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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actually most of members somewhy thinking that it is not flirt4free, but "sex4free" "porn4free" "slaves4free" and nothing else. for example one member came and even without just "Hello" said me "Get naked" when I said that it will in private, he started to say me some shit. You know, I respect people who is speaking with me normally, but how can I respect people who is like him? how can I respect people who doesn`t see myself as just a human, but as slave who must make their requests? and in last time more and more people gets rude when they are just getting answer "No" for free request or when they are sending offers like a 10cpm for cum show.

P.S I see only one output. wanna get action? be ready to pay for action.
I`m always easy to talk. so, waiting you in my room.

You do not need to respect, nor tolerate, such members as you have described. I hope they were new to the site and were not fully aware of what the site is about (which may be the case if they joined through an affiliate site), but it is still no excuse for treating a fellow human being so rudely and disrespectfully. if they had any manners at all, they would at least have said hello first, and if they had any common decency, they would not have resorted to directing insults and profanities towards you when you chose to decline their "request".

Please know that there ARE still members on the site who know how to treat performers respectfully and behave properly and appropriately in the open chat rooms, and who understand what fair and reasonable offers are.

Happy Christmas to all!

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Created by: Matthew Cool

12/24/14 @ 7:35pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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You do not need to respect, nor tolerate, such members as you have described. I hope they were new to the site and were not fully aware of what the site is about (which may be the case if they joined through an affiliate site), but it is still no excuse for treating a fellow human being so rudely and disrespectfully. if they had any manners at all, they would at least have said hello first, and if they had any common decency, they would not have resorted to directing insults and profanities towards you when you chose to decline their "request".

Please know that there ARE still members on the site who know how to treat performers respectfully and behave properly and appropriately in the open chat rooms, and who understand what fair and reasonable offers are.

Happy Christmas to all!

I know that here is many nice people, and trying to make them enjoy my show and talking.

Happy Christmas to you too ;)

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Created by: louisphillippe

12/25/14 @ 2:00am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Tssssss..... :orglaugh

duplicate again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad

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Created by: louisphillippe

12/25/14 @ 2:04am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Respect : ....everybody demands it but very few know how to give it... :evil

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Created by: louisphillippe

12/25/14 @ 2:19am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Duplicate posting....sorry!! :thumbsup

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Created by: Danny Allen

12/25/14 @ 11:12am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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This is how I deal with those members.. First eject with a note about tipping when they come back if nothing changes then get a ban from my room. I really would like to see the respect factor pick up around here. also members the models are more inclined to do what you want if your nice to them. just saying. lets start respecting each other as well as the rest of the models.

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Created by: Adonis Steel

12/30/14 @ 12:01am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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well say, i like that in special part with flirt4free is about that for sure , bu t u miss a part site name is no t : SHOW4FREE to ! so all who don t tip just stey patience , meke conversation and don,t insist to say again and again show more or stuff like that if they never tip! that is right for model and for real payd members to !

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12/30/14 @ 12:04am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Created by: sir_ken

12/30/14 @ 5:49am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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hey buddy i just see your post , you sayit well ! they need to understend that we are no t here for free request or to meke free shows that site is no t worcking like that becouse of that 'fake members' models quit

we have the right to know if the model have what we want for us to take their service and give em the creds that we paid for using our money :jerkoff

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Created by: asti

12/30/14 @ 7:58am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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we have the right to know if the model have what we want for us to take their service and give em the creds that we paid for using our money

There is so much in that one sentence. This response has potential solutions.
The models are agents of a private company that we as individuals have a choice to become a member or not. There are no rights. I hear the "buyer beware" and "don't buy sight unseen" message within that comment but there are several options to achieve the desired goal.
First many models if not naked in open chat (some strategically covered, others giving free pvts) are wearing only underwear with little left to the imagination. They are already showing 95% of the goods. How much are they required to give away for free?
Second a member may tip for a preview. However, members must be realistic. A 10 credit tip for nudity is an insult and 25 is no better. I have seen members expect the world for that $1.00 and $2.50. I wonder how many of those members would be willing to, "show cock ,show ass, get naked, spread 'em" for only a couple of dollars.
Third, preview the models' VODs, the photos (some show all) on the profile pages or just look at their VOD catalogues. Most everything is previewed in the screen captures. I don't even mean the storyboards. There are models who block their VODs in general or enact the "top model" block to their shows. So that option may be off the table. If a model has a social media page go there. Many show what they have there.
Last, just take them private and make your request. If you don't like what they have or they do not show what they promised, leave that room. The member isn't always at fault. Yes, there are models who make open chat promises that go unfulfilled in private. That is equally as bad as meager tips.
These are just some suggested solutions to the point made. :thumbsup

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Created by: sir_ken

12/30/14 @ 8:41am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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There is so much in that one sentence. This response has potential solutions.
The models are agents of a private company that we as individuals have a choice to become a member or not. There are no rights. I hear the "buyer beware" and "don't buy sight unseen" message within that comment but there are several options to achieve the desired goal.
First many models if not naked in open chat (some strategically covered, others giving free pvts) are wearing only underwear with little left to the imagination. They are already showing 95% of the goods. How much are they required to give away for free?
Second a member may tip for a preview. However, members must be realistic. A 10 credit tip is an insult and 25 is no better. I have seen members expect the world for that $1.00 - $2.50. I wonder how many of those members would be willing to, "show cock ,show ass, get naked, spread 'em" for only a couple of dollars.
Third, preview the models' VODs, the photos (some show all) on the profile pages or just look at their VOD catalogues. Most everything is previewed in the screen captures. I don't even mean the storyboards. There are models who block their VODs in general or enact the "top model" block to their shows. So that option may be off the table. If a model has a social media page go there. Many show what they have there.
Last, just take them private and make your request. If you don't like what they have or they do not show what they promised, leave that room. The member isn't always at fault. Yes, there are models who make open chat promises that go unfulfilled in private. That is equally as bad as meager tips.
These are just some suggested solutions to the point made. :thumbsup

solutions?? thanks for those solutions.. a lot of members may get something from that.... i get your point dont get me wrong but i dont need it...i said before i know my limits when it comes to requests if the model dont want then no business to be made.

there are instances they agreed to what i want after awhile but that does not change my mind :angel

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