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Created by: foreplay4ever

7/4/18 @ 10:28pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: freneticallycalm

7/9/18 @ 1:03am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Oh yeah. GoFish has to put in his semi-annual outrage about nudity on a sex site.
I'm still waiting for some of these people to lodge reasonable complaints.
Slow load times. System booting you out of pvt. Clicking 25 credits and it tipping 100 credits. Confusing systems when trying to use a new credit card.
I mean ... give me SOMETHING that actually matters to the functionality of the website.
What's next? I'm sick of models offering discount codes!!! :orglaugh

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7/9/18 @ 3:11am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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I've said this in other threads, but I go to different models for different reasons. Yet, I have never gone to any model because they were nude. That eliminates a large part of the challenge...and the enjoyment. God knows, I love to see a gorgeous man wearing nothing but a smile; but I want the pleasure of slowly seducing the man. For me, if it's too easy, it's no fun.

You are on a sex site where models don't make any money with their clothes on. If they are too easy for you, why don't you take them private and have them get dressed? Or use one of those competing sites where models aren't allowed to be nude in open room. Or you and gofish could tip a few models big money to get dressed in open room. They are here to make money, not date like it's 1950.

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You are on a sex site where models don't make any money with their clothes on. If they are too easy for you, why don't you take them private and have them get dressed? Or use one of those competing sites where models aren't allowed to be nude in open room. Or you and gofish could tip a few models big money to get dressed in open room. They are here to make money, not date like it's 1950.

thats it..they dont make money being naked and wanking, cumming inserting and doing everything in open chat.. Why pay anything as a guest when you get it all for free, and that actually is stealing income from the great models who temp and tease. for you cheapskate freeloading types there are many other site and porn places where everything is for free.. go there and be quiet here!!!

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Created by: freneticallycalm

7/9/18 @ 4:37am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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thats it..they dont make money being naked and wanking, cumming inserting and doing everything in open chat.. Why pay anything as a guest when you get it all for free, and that actually is stealing income from the great models who temp and tease. for you cheapskate freeloading types there are many other site and porn places where everything is for free.. go there and be quiet here!!!

It’s unlikely that forum users are freeloaders, first off.
Secondly, have you ever been on this site? Some models make a lot of tips in open chat by showing off. Let each model discover and use the strategy which works best for them.
Third ... and most importantly, stop being a giant dickhead! I realize that’s your screenname but bounds of reason.
This authoritarian attitude in response to someone saying “Just Be Free” is essentially what every war in mankind’s history has been fought over: the oppressor vs. the libertine.
Trying to suggest you’re helping to protect their income or the grey users are “forcing” the models to do anything is asinine in the extreme.
Why don’t you go away somewhere and start your own adult website where everyone keeps their clothes on and see how well that works out for you? Flirt will continue to be Flirt like it or not.

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Created by: virgilcircle9

7/9/18 @ 4:41am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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It’s unlikely that forum users are freeloaders, first off.
Secondly, have you ever been on this site? Some models make a lot of tips in open chat by showing off. Let each model discover and use the strategy which works best for them.
Third ... and most importantly, stop being a giant dickhead! I realize that’s your screenname but bounds of reason.
This authoritarian attitude in response to someone saying “Just Be Free” is essentially what every war in mankind’s history has been fought over: the oppressor vs. the libertine.
Trying to suggest you’re helping to protect their income or the grey users are “forcing” the models to do anything is asinine in the extreme.
Why don’t you go away somewhere and start your own adult website where everyone keeps their clothes on and see how well that works out for you? Flirt will continue to be Flirt like it or not.

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7/9/18 @ 4:51am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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" Why don’t you go away somewhere and start your own adult website where everyone keeps their clothes on and see how well that works out for you? Flirt will continue to be Flirt like it or not."

eh tu brute.. oh yes I have been on this site for many many years and observed the degradation of the site from a great experience to the lowering levels we are now seeing. And yes I do follow the fighting principles.. Tsu and The Art of War are compelling in trying to resurrect this decaying site.
So, therefore, oh magnificent pretend master of the forums, maybe you should learn what a forum is for, and that free expression of ideas and theories is the way they work.. Maybe you could try and be Romanesque toward what happens. Based on the quote and calling people asine maybe you are thinking your ideas must dominate the forum. That is not true.

And yes many models are actually leaving the site because of the naked action thieves... but that is just one opinion, and it allowed to be expressed openly

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Created by: z-money

7/9/18 @ 6:24am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: asti

7/9/18 @ 7:08am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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There is a performer charging 150 CPM in private shows. Looking at a sampling of his shows, clothing stays on a good percentage of the time, sometimes the entire show. Models don't make money unless nude, please.

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Created by: gofish

7/9/18 @ 12:38pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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A lot of chat one way or another here. That combo of whispering and nudity really gets emotions high.
Yes a lot of the performers make good money on the site being nude in open chat or not being nude in open chat. That has always been the case with this site. Fact is that basic members will most likely never take the leap and get some credit when everything they want they can get for free. Second in case some don't know the site is completely open to anyone who happens to hit on it in the internet. Yes there is NO AGE limit to access this site.
The whispering will always be an issue and one valid point was brought up here that might have been spot on. If you can take up the time whispering to the performer why bother taking them private if there is full interaction. Yes whispering DOES have a place, but why would a performer whisper HELLO to you. So of think that some studios push the whispering to the point that some performers don't actually realize they are whispering.
As to the nudity yes it can be quite the turn on, but unless you are hiding under a rock there is a flow in and out of performers who basically have everything going against them when the trend on the site is GET NAKED and they will CUM.
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7/9/18 @ 1:08pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I'm still waiting for some of these people to lodge reasonable complaints.
Slow load times. System booting you out of pvt. Clicking 25 credits and it tipping 100 credits. Confusing systems when trying to use a new credit card.
I mean ... give me SOMETHING that actually matters to the functionality of the website.

May I add Audio/Mic problems, long C2C delays, video buffering and the site not accumulating Tips/Multi-User shows for badges as "reasonable complaints" ?

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Created by: brett025

7/9/18 @ 2:16pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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You know, over and over in the forums it is said that the site is going downhill like its success is spiraling downward or something....but it's not. I understand there are some long-time users that haven't adjusted their expectations over the years, but Flirt is not suffering...and so why should they care? I only see numbers of credits spent going up. The #1 guy in big bang brought in $20k+ in credits in a few days, and the #1 girl double that. That's just TWO models and not unusual these days. The models that are leaving are missing out, and like I said, Flirt isn't suffering for it. The dynamic of the site shifted. It's just time for some people to catch up or move on.
On the actual point....my boo doesn't take a single piece of clothing off unless it's in a party or private, and he's doing just fine! Not saying I'm against nudity at all, just pointing out that both work!

Well said Z-Money. I've been around this site for over 10 years and things have definitely changed, if you don't like it find another site more to your liking as nobody is holding you here for ransom. A few here in the forums continuously write the site is off track, maybe it is for them but not for most other members or the people running this site so try looking at those other sites instead. Compared to many years ago the tipping is much bigger and frequent so they are making a lot of money and not off track when this is a for profit business. On many models leaving the site, the turnover in this industry is insane and always has been. Many models figure out quickly this work isn't for them and leave, some fight it and hope for the best but are miserable, many do well enough to keep at it, a few ascend rapidly to the top. There are no guarantees of success.

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7/9/18 @ 2:43pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Well said Z-Money. I've been around this site for over 10 years and things have definitely changed, if you don't like it find another site more to your liking as nobody is holding you here for ransom. A few here in the forums continuously write the site is off track, maybe it is for them but not for most other members or the people running this site so try looking at those other sites instead. Compared to many years ago the tipping is much bigger and frequent so they are making a lot of money and not off track when this is a for profit business. On many models leaving the site, the turnover in this industry is insane and always has been. Many models figure out quickly this work isn't for them and leave, some fight it and hope for the best but are miserable, many do well enough to keep at it, a few ascend rapidly to the top. There are no guarantees of success.

Hey there sort of agree with some of what you say. Nope the site is not a write off at the moment merely because one always bumps into a few interesting character.
Part of the problem is I think because many viewers just don't take the time to know the performer. The trend now seems to be so many requested in open chat to "loose the clothes", "show dick" or "lets see that ass". Many might come from those grey viewers, but am guessing the basic members are into it as well.
As for the performers many I think come online expecting automatic attention merely by just sitting there and WHISPERING take me private or something along those lines. If they don't see quick results they sort of get pissed of. Takes time to build a fan base on the the and just finding the right time requires a lot of time for them to be online. With so many models just sitting there naked there is little incentive for a real member to hit that button. Heck if it is FREE why pay for it. No offense to any of these performers, but think at their end they might have been given the wrong message ....nudity is only part of the flirt picture.
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Created by: male4622

7/9/18 @ 4:35pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I do spend my share of credits, but I also come here for the people I meet. If I connect with a person on the site, I couldn't care less what they look like naked. Yeah, butts and cocks are great attractors, but the heart and mind keeps me here.

I find that if you try to get to know folks that your experience improves by ten fold.

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7/9/18 @ 6:27pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Hey there sort of agree with some of what you say. Nope the site is not a write off at the moment merely because one always bumps into a few interesting character.
Part of the problem is I think because many viewers just don't take the time to know the performer. The trend now seems to be so many requested in open chat to "loose the clothes", "show dick" or "lets see that ass". Many might come from those grey viewers, but am guessing the basic members are into it as well.
As for the performers many I think come online expecting automatic attention merely by just sitting there and WHISPERING take me private or something along those lines. If they don't see quick results they sort of get pissed of. Takes time to build a fan base on the the and just finding the right time requires a lot of time for them to be online. With so many models just sitting there naked there is little incentive for a real member to hit that button. Heck if it is FREE why pay for it. No offense to any of these performers, but think at their end they might have been given the wrong message ....nudity is only part of the flirt picture.
:winkwink

Those requests you reference are nothing new and have been happening since I joined and they come from all levels of members. I think the site could do something to restrict grey members or unverified members interactivity on the site which may entice a few to fully join and buy credits to support models, which is why they are here to begin with! Yes, getting to know a model can make the site more fun for each of us but not everyone is here for the same thing, just like the models. Some members just want to "get off" while others want to get to know a model and tip before getting physical in a private. Either way, they are supporting the model with credits which is most important.

Your whispering comments are beyond old. Were you around many years ago when the site first decided to address whispering? If so do you remember what happened? It backfired on them very badly so don't expect them to go down that path again which is why they left it up to the model whether it is allowed in their room or not. Just find another room if it bothers you that much as whispering isn't the ill you make it out to be in every post.

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7/9/18 @ 7:02pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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"Get to know the performer," like whispering is just cyber sex or random, distracting chat. In my case, whispering is getting to know the model and building a relationship, as I'm sure it is for most that use whispers consistently with the same models. I'm not going to comment on any whisper topics again, because it's old, played out, and just plain nonsense, but in my opinion, anti-whisper members are anti-credit/anti-private members. Someone mentioned whispering being a form of free private, but if your experience relies on open chat as part of the experience, what's the difference? That you get more attention from more people? I just don't get it.

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7/9/18 @ 7:12pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Created by: asti

7/9/18 @ 10:02pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Yes asti we all agree.. lots of fun in privates parties and groups... wonderful. The discussion relates to the full nudity wanking cuming and insertions etc that open chat is now full of. And mainly this is with a room full of grey users and the partial members who are still basic because they are not signed in with a credit card

You are on a sex site where models don't make any money with their clothes on.

Big Rich, I am commenting to the quote directly above. My observation is relevant to steaminmypants' remark. If a performer applies themself and commands their room, they don't need to do all the gimmicks to earn credits. I think that is on point with this thread. Am I opposed to open chat nudity? No. Is nudity required to lure members into private from open chat. No

This discussion began concerned with nudity in open chat. All the other stuff happening in open chat, cumming, inserting, grey users and unregistered members who get the milk for free and will never buy the cow...you are preaching to the choir, all that stuff came about as the thread evolved.

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