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Male Performer Chat: What members don't want to see...
I honestly think, If we as members accept that the model is here to be respected and appreciated there would never be any confusion in the rooms. We make them focus on other things when were not showing them attention or just demanding them to do things without tipping them. There're human to, so just like us (members) when were bored we find something to do. So why not let them be themselves. Think about how they feel, put yourself in there shoes. I've sat in my favorite model room for hours, tipped him, talked to him, and took him private. To me he is the most nicest model here, not to mention the sexiest. He is real and down to earth, I can relate to him. I hate to see him get frustrated with his viewers when he feels they ignore him. Because he starts doing the things that I see you post here that you hate. I think we need to try to harder to make them not get so bored. IJS 
I would like to say that this is a very kind post. Here's the real problem. Most models don't conduct themselves as professionals(flirty professionals) nor do they view themselves that way. Everything in the backdrop plays a crucial role. It's like a first impression. If you enter a room and you see something that bothers you then you will be less likely to tip that model even if it's Brad Pitt himself in a silk jock strap. It's our job to create an environment that's inviting as well as be attentive to our fans. Having said that, I work 12-14 hours some days and at the end of the day when you get the people asking you really annoying questions that they could've found on your bio or offering you 1000$ to suck you off it can be a bit frustrating and sometimes I do take a look at twitter or text to distract myself long enough to recover from wanting to say something mean. As a customer and model I have seen a lot and I see both sides as very relevant to creating a better overall experience here at flirt4free. I hope that if you ever do enter my chat room you leave happier then you came and for most that do that is the case. Thanks for being proactive in your likes and dislikes as it helps us to further enhance your experience and develop ourselves as models.
Thanks,
Steve Quote
I would like to say that this is a very kind post. Here's the real problem. Most models don't conduct themselves as professionals(flirty professionals) nor do they view themselves that way. Everything in the backdrop plays a crucial role. It's like a first impression. If you enter a room and you see something that bothers you then you will be less likely to tip that model even if it's Brad Pitt himself in a silk jock strap. It's our job to create an environment that's inviting as well as be attentive to our fans. Having said that, I work 12-14 hours some days and at the end of the day when you get the people asking you really annoying questions that they could've found on your bio or offering you 1000$ to suck you off it can be a bit frustrating and sometimes I do take a look at twitter or text to distract myself long enough to recover from wanting to say something mean. As a customer and model I have seen a lot and I see both sides as very relevant to creating a better overall experience here at flirt4free. I hope that if you ever do enter my chat room you leave happier then you came and for most that do that is the case. Thanks for being proactive in your likes and dislikes as it helps us to further enhance your experience and develop ourselves as models.
Thanks,
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I still think it is one of the best threads I seen on the forum and L.P. does not get mad at me for going
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ronnie-uk
7/24/16 @ 12:47pm
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I still think it is one of the best threads I seen on the forum
You still think so, Elmo...
This topic encourages complaints about performers, and makes them feel unwelcome here. Following this topic LP now complains more than any other member in this forum, which is sad to see.
A point to consider: this can appear to be a topic about "rules and etiquette". You often say how much you hate rules and etiquette.
As an example: a performer is having fun playing loud music in his room. LP says (in post #1) that the performer should not play loud music. So should the performer have fun, or should he follow LP's rules...
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You still think so, Elmo...
This topic encourages complaints about performers, and makes them feel unwelcome here. Following this topic LP now complains more than any other member in this forum, which is sad to see.
A point to consider: this can appear to be a topic about "rules and etiquette". You often say how much you hate rules and etiquette.
As an example: a performer is having fun playing loud music in his room. LP says (in post #1) that the performer should not play loud music. So should the performer have fun, or should he follow LP's rules...
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You still think so, Elmo...
This topic encourages complaints about performers, and makes them feel unwelcome here. Following this topic LP now complains more than any other member in this forum, which is sad to see.
A point to consider: this can appear to be a topic about "rules and etiquette". You often say how much you hate rules and etiquette.
As an example: a performer is having fun playing loud music in his room. LP says (in post #1) that the performer should not play loud music. So should the performer have fun, or should he follow LP's rules...
i ran E.M. off the forum
and L.P. ran A.S. off the forum please forgive me L.P, it was a joke in the rooms form some of Tim's friends that i had to past on 
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Elmo - I see you avoided my tricky question. You should be a politician ...
if your trick is that i drink my jd and coke in some of the loudest rooms on the site that is true but everyone of them would turn it down if L.P. cane in the room there is no way i would let a good member get out of my young friends rooms like that
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if your trick is that i drink my jd and coke in some of the loudest rooms on the site that is true but everyone of them would turn it down if L.P. cane in the room
there is no way i would let a good member get out of my young friends rooms like that
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7/27/16 @ 12:10am
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As an example: a performer is having fun playing loud music in his room. LP says (in post #1) that the performer should not play loud music. So should the performer have fun, or should he follow LP's rules...
I do enjoy listening to music in a chat room, in particular where chat is typed, which is more common with European models whose first language isn't English.
I believe music makes one of the greatest chat topics to get to know one another with a wide range of subtopics (Ever been to a live concert? Which was your first album you ever bought? Do you play an instrument? etc. pp.). There are enought explicit songs, too, to get into the mood or more ... uhm ... business related discussions.
Every room I have visited over a longer time left a certain musical impression on me and there is always a specific song (or two, or three) I associate exclusively with one model.
What I want to say is I'd never ask a model to turn his music down ... I've become aware of Death Metal and Pig Growling like that.
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I do enjoy listening to music in a chat room, in particular where chat is typed, which is more common with European models whose first language isn't English.
I believe music makes one of the greatest chat topics to get to know one another with a wide range of subtopics (Ever been to a live concert? Which was your first album you ever bought? Do you play an instrument? etc. pp.). There are enought explicit songs, too, to get into the mood or more ... uhm ... business related discussions
.Every room I have visited over a longer time left a certain musical impression on me and there is always a specific song (or two, or three) I associate exclusively with one model.
What I want to say is I'd never ask a model to turn his music down ... I've become aware of Death Metal and Pig Growling like that
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louisphillippe
7/27/16 @ 3:24am
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if your trick is that i drink my jd and coke in some of the loudest rooms on the site that is true but everyone of them would turn it down if L.P. cane in the room
there is no way i would let a good member get out of my young friends rooms like that You really know what is good for the models my friend!! 
I would never impose my presence when a model is having fun hisown way
if I wanted him to lower the music first I wouldtake him private
... then ask politely to lower thevolume so we can chat and hear each other and have fun together......
There are members that might feel a different way but... 
heck!! whyshould we care????????
they don't pay forour shows....right???
Just my
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louisphillippe
7/27/16 @ 3:45am
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You still think so, Elmo...
This topic encourages complaints about performers, and makes them feel unwelcome here. Following this topic LP now complains more than any other member in this forum, which is sad to see.
A point to consider: this can appear to be a topic about "rules and etiquette". You often say how much you hate rules and etiquette.
As an example: a performer is having fun playing loud music in his room. LP says (in post #1) that the performer should not play loud music. So should the performer have fun, or should he follow LP's rules...
Ha ha ha haaaaaa!!!! blah...blah...blahhh..blahhh!!! Who died and made you Arbiter and Judge of the World??? If the model is smart he'll follow the paying member rules... If he is NOT...yours...
I just stated that I don't think ( "I" not everyone..)not everybody here likes it
... If you like it instead of the voice of theperformer then more power to you!! I don't really care what you like....;)
WTF are you talking about "etiquette"???? is that the Bible, K'uoran,Bagabad Gita or the Constitution???
ETIQUETTE??? this is aPORN site for chris sake!! !!!
and most of all, a place for free speech...
Of course this would encourage complaints aboutmodels!!!....LMAO!! how else would they know they are doing something wrong???
By blowing hot air inside their speedos???
...ROFLMAO!!...they are NOT tiny babies after all!!...and most of them NEVER come around here as well as
member because comments like YOURS and some others "know it all" keep them away... ;))))
More and more models and members refuse to post here for that reason.
Soon this will be a deserted forum and you'll have it all for
yourself....I can promise you that!!
And that is my
6 cents...
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ronnie-uk
7/27/16 @ 8:16am
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most of them NEVER come around here as well as
member because comments like YOURS and some others "know it all" keep them away... ;))))
More and more models and members refuse to post here for that reason.
Not fair, Louis
I have always tried to praise the best rather than criticise the worst. I like to make a positive contribution to the forums, and have launched a number of upbeat topics here (including Flirt4Free Top 5, Best Pics and Poses, So Many Hot Models, What Members Like To See and Best VOD Cum Shots). You were very generous in your response to my Best Bodies list (*).
We don't have to agree, and are entitled to express our different views. But I still feel that positive comments rather than negative comments are more like to encourage more of the wonderful male performers to post here and make this a lively, friendly, fun forum
http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=22893&num_posts=8 Quote
member because comments like YOURS and some others "know it all" keep them away... ;))))
More and more models and members refuse to post here for that reason.
Not fair, Louis
I have always tried to praise the best rather than criticise the worst. I like to make a positive contribution to the forums, and have launched a number of upbeat topics here (including Flirt4Free Top 5, Best Pics and Poses, So Many Hot Models, What Members Like To See and Best VOD Cum Shots). You were very generous in your response to my Best Bodies list (*).
We don't have to agree, and are entitled to express our different views. But I still feel that positive comments rather than negative comments are more like to encourage more of the wonderful male performers to post here and make this a lively, friendly, fun forum
http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=22893&num_posts=8 Quote
L.P. we do not go to the same rooms but i think we hear the same thing about the forum in open chat. 
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7/27/16 @ 11:43am
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Not fair, Louis
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We don't have to agree, and are entitled to express our different views. But I still feel that positive comments rather than negative comments are more like to encourage more of the wonderful male performers to post here and make this a lively, friendly, fun forum
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We don't have to agree, and are entitled to express our different views. But I still feel that positive comments rather than negative comments are more like to encourage more of the wonderful male performers to post here and make this a lively, friendly, fun forum
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louisphillippe
7/27/16 @ 6:12pm
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Not fair, Louis
I have always tried to praise the best rather than criticise the worst. I like to make a positive contribution to the forums, and have launched a number of upbeat topics here (including Flirt4Free Top 5, Best Pics and Poses, So Many Hot Models, What Members Like To See and Best VOD Cum Shots). You were very generous in your response to my Best Bodies list (*).
We don't have to agree, and are entitled to express our different views. But I still feel that positive comments rather than negative comments are more like to encourage more of the wonderful male performers to post here and make this a lively, friendly, fun forum
http://www.flirt4free.com/forums/threads.php?forum_id=5&thread_id=22893&num_posts=8
Blah...blah...blah...blah...blah... 
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Where did all that get you and us????? We now have a forum with very few members left and even lessmodels because of the iron hand of the All Mighty Know it All Members
of the Most Sacred Fora in F4F...
That have made this place a monopoly of opinions procedures and ideas.
It is not myself that have scared posters away,I don'tcare or attack what others think and do,I tell things as I see them
and as I'm told by other members and performers.....
A few members are obsessed to have their way or the highwayand that is not a healthy atmosphere anybody wants to experience so models
and members stay away from here....
In any discussion or subject there MUST be a positive and a negative point of view or it is just a monologue...
After a few years of monologues,we now have a desertedforum...
now it is very SAFE but as boring as watchingpaint dry...
Now we must all agree with YOU!!! and another 1 or 5 brains here... I think you feel this forum was created for your enjoyment and gloryonly and you have the supreme right to tell us all what and how to do things...
Well...I might be the last fighting foot soldier and likemany others I'm sick of the status quo and like many others stop making comments
or expressing my concerns...
Talk to the models like many of us do and you'll have a very differentopinion...
ask them why they don't post here their concerns... Open your eyes and your mind!!! And that is my
and always right opinion...LMAO!!
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louisphillippe
7/27/16 @ 6:20pm
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L.P. we do not go to the same rooms but i think we hear the same thing about the forum in open chat.
MYELMO...we do go to a few same rooms and you know what
I'm talking about... BABY...baby...BB..bb. babe
But NOoooooooooooo!! this place is so much FUN!!!
OOOpppss... I used the "F" word...ROFLMAO!!
See you out there in the REAL world MYELMO!!!
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MYELMO...we do go to a few same rooms and you know whatI'm talking about...
BABY...baby...BB..bb. babe But NOoooooooooooo!! this place is so much FUN!!! OOOpppss... I used the "F" word...ROFLMAO!! See you out there in the REAL world MYELMO!!!
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ronnie-uk
7/28/16 @ 5:09am
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What members and performers don't want to see in this forum:
- members complaining about performers
- members complaining about the site
- members complaining about other members
That is my view. I think I am allowed to express it, without being attacked or ridiculed.
Let us all show some respect
Nothing more to say here
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- members complaining about performers
- members complaining about the site
- members complaining about other members
That is my view. I think I am allowed to express it, without being attacked or ridiculed.
Let us all show some respect
Nothing more to say here
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chrisdk
7/28/16 @ 6:03am
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Thank you, ronnie, I feel the same.
I have no problems with negative comments on a topic under debate. I have given myself some.
However, lots of negative vibes about the forum in general were my motivation for the thread about forums including many suggestions what could be discussed here.
I am trying to come up with ideas to engage members and performers alike. Some things will work, others won't. I have not yet given up on this and the people here.
To be honest, the Male Performer Forum is the only one of Flirt's Forums were I feel it is going this way into desolation. I look with some envy to the great atmosphere on the Female Performer Forum.
The Games Forum is really hitting it off now since performers have regained access. I hope to see some of you there.
The VIP forum has always been a place of fair and deep discussions.
I do not claim that I know it all. I offer advice, I make suggestions, I give my opinion. Some members and performers have more experience than others, I can learn from them or try to look with more optimism than they do into the future.
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I have no problems with negative comments on a topic under debate. I have given myself some.
However, lots of negative vibes about the forum in general were my motivation for the thread about forums including many suggestions what could be discussed here.
I am trying to come up with ideas to engage members and performers alike. Some things will work, others won't. I have not yet given up on this and the people here
.To be honest, the Male Performer Forum is the only one of Flirt's Forums were I feel it is going this way into desolation. I look with some envy to the great atmosphere on the Female Performer Forum
.The Games Forum is really hitting it off now since performers have regained access. I hope to see some of you there.
The VIP forum has always been a place of fair and deep discussions.
I do not claim that I know it all. I offer advice, I make suggestions, I give my opinion. Some members and performers have more experience than others, I can learn from them or try to look with more optimism than they do into the future.
It is a mistake to think we have talked about everything we could and should. Quote
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gofish
7/28/16 @ 1:44pm
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I would like to say that this is a very kind post. Here's the real problem. Most models don't conduct themselves as professionals(flirty professionals) nor do they view themselves that way. Everything in the backdrop plays a crucial role. It's like a first impression. If you enter a room and you see something that bothers you then you will be less likely to tip that model even if it's Brad Pitt himself in a silk jock strap. It's our job to create an environment that's inviting as well as be attentive to our fans. Having said that, I work 12-14 hours some days and at the end of the day when you get the people asking you really annoying questions that they could've found on your bio or offering you 1000$ to suck you off it can be a bit frustrating and sometimes I do take a look at twitter or text to distract myself long enough to recover from wanting to say something mean. As a customer and model I have seen a lot and I see both sides as very relevant to creating a better overall experience here at flirt4free. I hope that if you ever do enter my chat room you leave happier then you came and for most that do that is the case. Thanks for being proactive in your likes and dislikes as it helps us to further enhance your experience and develop ourselves as models.
Thanks,
Steve
That Mr Steve was well said and as they say hit the nail on the head.
I do believe part of the problem is in using the term MODEL when in fact on your side of the cam you are actually a performer who is creating something of a fantasy for your viewers. Being a good looking guy like yourself is a big help, but one has to take into account the whole picture. The room layout,the mood music in the background and YES the conversation going on with the viewers (hopefully mostly members) in the room.
I get that is frustrating when some viewers ask questions where the answers can clearly be found on your BIO page. Geez they could not even take the time to check that out is most likely they merely jump from one performer on the site to another. As for making any $$$ offers yes have seen them and lets just say what a way to insult a performer on the site. Alas some viewers merely like to do that, thank heavens they are few in number.
Great post response by the way.
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That Mr Steve was well said and as they say hit the nail on the head.
I do believe part of the problem is in using the term MODEL when in fact on your side of the cam you are actually a performer who is creating something of a fantasy for your viewers. Being a good looking guy like yourself is a big help, but one has to take into account the whole picture. The room layout,the mood music in the background and YES the conversation going on with the viewers (hopefully mostly members) in the room.
I get that is frustrating when some viewers ask questions where the answers can clearly be found on your BIO page. Geez they could not even take the time to check that out is most likely they merely jump from one performer on the site to another. As for making any $$$ offers yes have seen them and lets just say what a way to insult a performer on the site. Alas some viewers merely like to do that, thank heavens they are few in number.
Great post response by the way.
to you Fish or anyone else who have ever been with me in open chat and know how slow i type do you really want me to use the word performer and not model?
i do agree performer is a better word than model
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gofish
7/28/16 @ 7:27pm
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to you Fish or anyone else who have ever been with me in open chat and know how slow i type do you really want me to use the word performer and not model?
i do agree performer is a better word than model For that one and only cheeky myelMO
For you to say MODEL that is something we will let GO
Type as slow for us to SEE
You are the one and only flirt bumble BEE
HARK HARK the myelmo is HERE
For then there will be fun and laughter never FEAR
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