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Created by: bryce_anders

10/19/19 @ 5:48am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Although, it is fun to see two attractive guys in a room, especially when they have sex together, more and more people are going in and out of the chatrooms and talking casual conversations with the models that you are chatting with. Some stay out of the camera, some are sneaking in crawling around out of sight and distracting. Some are the managers or bosses and the most obvious is on:
https://www.flirt4free.com/videos/guys/webcam/20415608-pierce-harrington-private-webcam-show.ph p at 5:26 to 5:30. This happens a lot in the Bel Ami chatrooms. I know they foster a nice relationship between the guys that is almost fraternity like but we are all chatroom guests and talking amongst yourselves as if we are an unimportant third party does not make us feel welcome. Especially in the middle of a chat. Even glancing over to say good-bye to someone who is sneaking around the room almost makes us wonder how private is a private and takes away from the atmosphere that we are paying for. Here at 1:09 to 1:10 https://www.flirt4free.com/videos/guys/webcam/20403880-freddy-mcqueen-private-webcam-show.php

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Created by: vscustomerservice

10/19/19 @ 5:59am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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We will contact the models studio regarding your complaint we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

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Created by: bryce_anders

10/19/19 @ 6:17am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Thanks F4F, yours is not to apologize, the studios in Prague and Bratislava need address this.

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Created by: lucky_leftee

10/20/19 @ 12:16pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Same thing happened to me. They were smiling and goofing off at each other even though I couldn't see the second person well, when the other person took out his phone, somehow I got knocked out of my private show and I was out 4500 credits. Fortunately, the VS customer service refunded my credits back within an hour. Took away from my personal time to be on the site, just lost all interest to hang around afterwards.

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Created by: schuman5

10/20/19 @ 9:24pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: USA
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I have seen it happen with belami as well. On a related note I am confused as to what information models see about us when we enter their room. I have read here at times it is very minimal, but there are times when I sense they can see who else we have visited and potentially credits spent. I have been gracious to excuse models being active on several sites at once (including F4F) which I thought was frowned upon back in the day.

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Created by: lucky_leftee

10/20/19 @ 10:32pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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My experience now with the belami studios is a group of probably straight gay for pay performers and who knows maybe there is a token gay guy. Many of the models have been tapped to do the films by the Duroy scouts. The established actors have "trained" the new actors themselves and some have done films together and they know a lot of the others, and in the chat rooms, they freely go in and out during the general chat, and some even stay in the rooms with the principal model during parts of the private chats. I've even seen some models open doors when they didn't know someone was in there. It's the culture that they encourage, the camaraderie. I think what bothers me is some think very highly of themselves as if they are superstars and the amount charged for the performance return is not really worth it. At this point, a lot of them act like professional chatroom models and the fun is not there for me anymore. They do a solid performance, but the emotion and the genuine feel of the shows is not there for a the last three I've seen. It is like a show for an audience. I was extremely disappointed by the show of one of their more popular guys that has been on for a long time. His show was as if it was a succession of movements that was so planned. Another one kept asking for 100 more credits to show this or that and it was an obvious credit vacuum and no real performance. This model that I dealt with today, when I look at his performance over the 4 month time he has been here, when I look now at the VOD's, he has gone from the fun spontaneity to a overly choreographed move of turning around doing the same thing. It's been a lot more fun talking to the new Russian models or new American models who don't have that choreographed overly staged performance.

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Created by: traviscarlton

10/20/19 @ 11:19pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Maybe there should be a request for the model to scan the room with the camera to make sure there is no one else in the room.

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Created by: felipe_diego

10/21/19 @ 5:46am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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The sense of entitlement was seen in one of my shows where the model wanted credits tipped to continue a show that I was already paying for with the premium price. I just cut out of the show abruptly. Meeting these porn actors here from this studio and really seeing their personalities makes me not want to see these movies. One wouldn't even get off his phone after arrogantly telling us he had been in a recent filmshoot. Chatting with him was like chatting with a spoiled teenager who wouldn't get his nose out of his phone.

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Created by: felipe_diego

10/21/19 @ 6:30pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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I would have to say that about Elio Chalamet's room. Go there to have fun, and today at about 6:25 PM EST, in the middle of a chat that is getting going, someone barges in and starts yelling and talking to him in Slovak and all of a sudden we are all chopped liver and the attention and fun is to the "visitor" that just yelled in the room. Then he stands up to run after him. Sorry, not sorry, Elio, my last visit to your room

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Created by: moanet

10/22/19 @ 7:07pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: chad_sydney99

10/22/19 @ 9:33pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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I love Elio but this happens frequently. I was in another belami models room ( the one where the studio is an apartment and there is really no separate spaces) and another model came in and sweetly kissed the tip of his cock. Nice but this threw off my private. This fraternity atmosphere is not what some of us want I wish these boys understood that.

They do movies together, they have sex with each other, they sexually train all the newbies and most of them by 19 or 20 have done shoots and slept with practically all the hot ones that the on line studio likes. Most of the movies will not come out for a while until they are a bit older. In the meantime, they are on the belami chat studio. I don't think the studio bosses care since most of them get in the upwards of 75 to 90 to 120 CPM for which the porn actors get very little but he bosses pocket the lions share. The unruly atmosphere will not be corrected as long as the studios keep getting their premium prices. I used to spend 15,000 to 25,000 credits a week, sometimes more in these studios with different models, one being my favorite getting his lion's share but his performance has changed and waned in it's luster. I am tired of having their buddies poke their heads in, hang around, lurk in the backgrounds. I hate having them speak in their language and completely treat me like I'm not there especially during a private. I tire of them glancing and laughing at the hidden buddy out of the camera angle. Then in the middle of some privates with one of their youngest rising stars, he answers emails and phone calls, talks to people poking their heads in and asking him things. It is really to the point where, this is not worth the cpm that he has requested. Time to relocate. These guys as someone said above become too full of themselves. Now knowing how these guys are destroys the mystique and allure of the belami brand for me. The whole idea that it is a business of scouting, grooming, training, developing what started as nice spontaneous almost innocent guys to become mere emotionless and robotic performers just completely ruined it for me. But things will not change. This brand and these studios will continue as it is and let their "models" run amuck as long as they get their money. My departure will not even create a dent.

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Created by: vscustomerservice

10/23/19 @ 4:07am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: felipe_diego

10/23/19 @ 5:54am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Yeah, I was in Mark Laysson's room and there was I think Ben Lilly in the back ground walking around and I asked if this was a couple room and he said no he just likes to be in his room. Bel Lilly often has another person just hanging out with him in the room. Elio Chalamet talks all the time to someone at the door. People seem to think they can just open Freddy McQueen's door during general or private chats and you can often see him nodding or smiling at someone else in the room or at the door. Cute guys but very distracting, and makes me feel like just some guy that they are waiting for to pay them to talk to them just because they do porn movies.

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Created by: chad_sydney99

10/23/19 @ 6:07am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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Yeah, not really "fresh men" any more when you think about it. Especially when they all have slept with each other numerous times by the time the films come out.

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Created by: traviscarlton

10/23/19 @ 9:33am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Yeah, not really "fresh men" any more when you think about it. Especially when they all have slept with each other numerous times by the time the films come out.

Yeah esp on a VOD where a newer one at 18 years old already talked about doing 8 films already and was about to embark on another. Man, they start early but this is a fantasy world where we try to think they’re inncocent. It was is a shocker to know how many films they do at that age and how they train they new ones. That’s why I always ask their age.

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Created by: moanet

10/23/19 @ 9:53pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: chad_sydney99

10/23/19 @ 11:00pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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I talked to Elio about the age thing. Some of his earlier vids look so young. He was a little wistful. I will say Jim Durden seems not as jaded. Btw when you say they’ve “ slept “ with each other that’s one thing they haven’t done.

Technically not slept in the lovers sense, but had sex or sexually trained with numerous other models including intercourse, yes, as seen in the movies and the videos training excerpts. Those belami training videos can be viewed on numerous websites and I think is even a marketing strategy where they show newbies "trained" by the experienced actors. These are on their Bel Ami online videos as well. They scout, they groom, they train, they film them training...it's all there, not a big secret when they film how they do it. I don't think the studio behavior will change either. If they pull in the credits, who's going to come down on them? When I had a nice private once with Freddy and after he came, JUST after he came, someone opened the door as he was just cleaning off his penis, and he looked up at the person and Freddy smiled at him, it was like a big game. It was as if they were waiting for the right moment to embarrass him. Cute mate, sure, but blew the whole nice private time we had going a bit too early. Elio, he's very evasive in his conversations. But going back to the original quote, slept is the wrong word, rather sex with multiple other models by the time they are even 19, yes. But that is what a lot of people want in the films, isn't it, mate?

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Created by: traviscarlton

10/24/19 @ 12:28am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Created by: bryce_anders

10/24/19 @ 12:54am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Hell, what if you're on Cam2Cam and there's someone there watching in the room that you don't want to watch you? What would be the role of the other person in the room? Filming your Cam2Cam? Or just having fun at your expense?

A private is supposed to be private, and I know when you turn on your Cam2Cam, you let some of your privacy go out the window, but the studio should address this if there is the uninvited guest into your private and your webcam is turned on.

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